I have wrapped up a lot of amazing work at the Center for Intercultural Organizing and got some time to talk alongside Zack about our work with Resilient Connections on KBOO Preference Radio. We talked about the Creating Change/Chains Conference, ICE and LGBTQ communities, closed spaces, and poetry as resistance. Listen here for the full episode! (PS I was depressed and stressed during this interview and there’s a couple word flops that made me blush)